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New York Times Columnist, Paul Krugman, Says Death Panels are Going to Save 'a lot of Money'
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Sarah Palin was right!! -- Death Panels are in the health care law.
The Liberal New York Times commentator Paul Krugman says the so-called "death panels" established by President Obama's trillion-dollar nationalized health-care plan will end up saving "a lot of money" for the government.
WND columnist Jane Chastain recently wrote on this very subject:
"This bill sets up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, which is to recommend cuts for the sole purpose of limiting the amount of resources going to Medicare patients. Some have called it a 'Death Panel,'" she wrote.
"You may think this is harsh, but if this bill passes, many seniors will die prematurely because the recommendations of these unelected bureaucrats will go into effect. Congress is not required to act on them!"
"Obama … wants Granny to believe that she will be able to receive that operation or treatment that could save or extend her life. Nothing could be further from the truth! There is a reverse incentive in this bill that actually penalizes Granny's primary-care physician if he or she is in the top 10 percent of doctors who refer patients to specialists. This puts a wedge between Granny and the doctor she trusts to act in her best interest."
Richard Poe, a New York Times best-selling author, documented in a previous report for WND how the government's plan to cut health care costs will do just that: cut health care for somebody.
"The only question is whose," Poe wrote. "The numbers make clear that most of these cuts will have to come at the expense of those who need health care the most – the elderly, the disabled and the gravely ill."
He cited Obama's confirmation that, "Older, sicker societies pay more on health care than younger, healthier ones."
"He is right," Poe wrote. "According to a 2006 study by the Department of Health and Human Services, five percent of the U.S. population accounts for nearly 50 percent of health care spending in America. Who are those five percent? Most are people over 65 years of age with serious, chronic illnesses.
"By contrast, the study notes, half of the U.S. population 'spends little or nothing on health care… with annual medical spending below $664 per person.' These, of course, are mostly healthy young people – people without serious, chronic illnesses," Poe wrote.
"Obviously, Obama will not meet his cost-cutting targets by reducing care to healthy young people. They are already spending next to nothing. It is the old, the dying and the chronically ill whose health care he will cut. The numbers make this clear," Poe said.
Some of those "old, the dying and the chronically ill" appear to be catching on. According to a report from Fox News, an estimated 60,000 members of AARP, which endorsed "Obamacare," have turned in their cards, cancelling their memberships, in recent weeks.
Poe elaborated on his concerns about the president's plan.
"How will Obama cut costs? His June 13 radio speech gave some hints. Obama said his plan would provide 'incentives' to doctors to 'avoid unnecessary hospital stays, treatments and tests that drive up costs,'" Poe wrote.
"And what sort of treatment does Obama consider 'unnecessary?' In an ABC News special June 24, he implied medical treatment might be wasted on elderly people with grave illnesses, citing his own grandmother as an example," he said.
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller," Obama concluded.
Poe also documented how such health care limits already are being used overseas, including the United Kingdom where "British elders are routinely denied treatment for cancer, heart disease and other deadly illnesses."
Further, such "death" boards already are operating in Oregon, where officials with the state Health Plan agreed to refuse a patient life-extending cancer drugs, but volunteered to pay for her to commit suicide.
He reported Barbara Wagner of Springfield, Ore., was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2005. Chemotherapy and radiation put her cancer into remission. But the cancer returned in May 2008.
Wagner's doctor prescribed Tarceva, a pill which slows cancer growth. There was a good chance it might extend her life by a few weeks or even months.
At age 64, Wagner had two sons, three daughters, 15 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren. Every moment she could spend with her loved ones was precious, he noted.
But Oregon's health commissars nixed the plan. Her Tarceva treatment would cost $4,000 per month. Wagner was going to die anyway, so why waste the money?
Wagner received a letter stating that the Oregon Health Plan would not approve any treatment for her "that is meant to prolong life, or change the course of the disease …" However, if Wagner opted for physician-assisted suicide, Oregon would be happy to pick up the tab, said the letter.
Physician-assisted suicide is legal in Oregon and costs only about $50.
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The Liberal New York Times commentator Paul Krugman says the so-called "death panels" established by President Obama's trillion-dollar nationalized health-care plan will end up saving "a lot of money" for the government.
WND columnist Jane Chastain recently wrote on this very subject:
"This bill sets up an Independent Medicare Advisory Board, which is to recommend cuts for the sole purpose of limiting the amount of resources going to Medicare patients. Some have called it a 'Death Panel,'" she wrote.
"You may think this is harsh, but if this bill passes, many seniors will die prematurely because the recommendations of these unelected bureaucrats will go into effect. Congress is not required to act on them!"
"Obama … wants Granny to believe that she will be able to receive that operation or treatment that could save or extend her life. Nothing could be further from the truth! There is a reverse incentive in this bill that actually penalizes Granny's primary-care physician if he or she is in the top 10 percent of doctors who refer patients to specialists. This puts a wedge between Granny and the doctor she trusts to act in her best interest."
Richard Poe, a New York Times best-selling author, documented in a previous report for WND how the government's plan to cut health care costs will do just that: cut health care for somebody.
"The only question is whose," Poe wrote. "The numbers make clear that most of these cuts will have to come at the expense of those who need health care the most – the elderly, the disabled and the gravely ill."
He cited Obama's confirmation that, "Older, sicker societies pay more on health care than younger, healthier ones."
"He is right," Poe wrote. "According to a 2006 study by the Department of Health and Human Services, five percent of the U.S. population accounts for nearly 50 percent of health care spending in America. Who are those five percent? Most are people over 65 years of age with serious, chronic illnesses.
"By contrast, the study notes, half of the U.S. population 'spends little or nothing on health care… with annual medical spending below $664 per person.' These, of course, are mostly healthy young people – people without serious, chronic illnesses," Poe wrote.
"Obviously, Obama will not meet his cost-cutting targets by reducing care to healthy young people. They are already spending next to nothing. It is the old, the dying and the chronically ill whose health care he will cut. The numbers make this clear," Poe said.
Some of those "old, the dying and the chronically ill" appear to be catching on. According to a report from Fox News, an estimated 60,000 members of AARP, which endorsed "Obamacare," have turned in their cards, cancelling their memberships, in recent weeks.
Poe elaborated on his concerns about the president's plan.
"How will Obama cut costs? His June 13 radio speech gave some hints. Obama said his plan would provide 'incentives' to doctors to 'avoid unnecessary hospital stays, treatments and tests that drive up costs,'" Poe wrote.
"And what sort of treatment does Obama consider 'unnecessary?' In an ABC News special June 24, he implied medical treatment might be wasted on elderly people with grave illnesses, citing his own grandmother as an example," he said.
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller," Obama concluded.
Poe also documented how such health care limits already are being used overseas, including the United Kingdom where "British elders are routinely denied treatment for cancer, heart disease and other deadly illnesses."
Further, such "death" boards already are operating in Oregon, where officials with the state Health Plan agreed to refuse a patient life-extending cancer drugs, but volunteered to pay for her to commit suicide.
He reported Barbara Wagner of Springfield, Ore., was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2005. Chemotherapy and radiation put her cancer into remission. But the cancer returned in May 2008.
Wagner's doctor prescribed Tarceva, a pill which slows cancer growth. There was a good chance it might extend her life by a few weeks or even months.
At age 64, Wagner had two sons, three daughters, 15 grandchildren and seven great-grandchildren. Every moment she could spend with her loved ones was precious, he noted.
But Oregon's health commissars nixed the plan. Her Tarceva treatment would cost $4,000 per month. Wagner was going to die anyway, so why waste the money?
Wagner received a letter stating that the Oregon Health Plan would not approve any treatment for her "that is meant to prolong life, or change the course of the disease …" However, if Wagner opted for physician-assisted suicide, Oregon would be happy to pick up the tab, said the letter.
Physician-assisted suicide is legal in Oregon and costs only about $50.
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Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel-Reason #1 Not to Support Obamacare
- emergency medical services,
- emergency department physicians or nurses,
- state long-term care association,
- state medical association,
- state surveyors,
- agency responsible for senior services,
- state department of health,
- state hospital association,
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- and state hospice association.
Here is the first of at least a few articles of me explaining why I am against Obamacare. Since the issue of "death panels" has been at the forefront recently, I will start there. While the section is called End of Life Counseling, Sarah Palin was correct in her assessment in describing them as "death panels."
First- There is a mandate in this bill that requires every five years that you absolutely MUST participate in Advanced Care Planning. What??? Govt should have no role in our lives whatsoever as to whether or not we have end of life counseling every five years or at all for that matter. This is yet another example of government trying to claim more control and power over our lives. And the result of this will be taking away even more of our freedom.
WHETHER A PERSON CHOOSES END OF LIFE COUNSELING OR NOT, IS NOT ANY OF OUR GOVERNMENT'S DAMN BUSINESS!!
There are some items in this bill that would be good suggestions for citizens to take part in but should by no means be in this bill as a requirement. For the average citizen to have knowledge about such things as health care proxies, advanced directives, living wills and durable powers of attorney, and for them to be explained to you by a practitioner is a great idea, but this HAS NO PLACE BEING IN A HEALTH CARE BILL!
Ezekiel Emanuel M.D., P.H.D., the brother of Rahm Emanuel, is a leading opponent of euthanasia laws, sometimes called state-assisted suicide, and a proponent of a Guaranteed Healthcare Access Plan. Emanuel is acting as Special Adviser for Health Policy to Peter Orszag, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget. I believe he is the driving force behind Obamacare and the main architect of the bill as well.
One provision of the bill states that the practitioner gives a person a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal
service organizations.
In section 427 the bill talks about medical orders with regards to life sustaining treatment and how they are standardized all across the State. According to the bill certaiin agencies are involved in your decision making as well. Citizens are guided in their end of life decision making by a Coalition of Stake Holders which includes representatives from:
The fact that this is state run and that the government is involved in a person/patient's decision making is extremely scary to me. Who knows whether the government, in order to save money will be promoting euthanasia. One of the top advisers to the President backs the use of euthanasia so I don't believe it a far stretch by any means to think that these panels would promote euthanasia in order to save the government money, especially if the person is under the government- run health care.
On Chuck Norris's article called Dirty Secret No. 2 in Obamacare he reveals more details regarding Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel. And his bible for health care reform
is his book Healthcare, Guaranteed.
Chuck Norris says, "I find it far more than a coincidence how much Emanuel's book parallels Obamacare's philosophy, strategy and proposed legislation."
'First, Emanuel rejects any attempts at incremental change or reform to our health care system (Page 185).
Second, in the chapter "Opening the Door to Comprehensive Change," starting on Page 171 (which reads more like a political and mass-manipulating strategy than a health care manual), Emanuel drives home "a key political lesson: the need to rush the legislation through." (Seen this methodology being used lately?!)'
'Third, as Obama crusades around the country pitching Obamacare, he continues to avoid giving virtually any specific details of the program. That, too, is a strategy of Emanuel's: "Americans need to avoid the policy weeds. Focusing on details will only distract and create tangles and traps (Page 183).'
'Fourth, Emanuel describes a comprehensive government health care program that is run completely by a national health board and 12 regional health boards ("modeled on the Federal Reserve System" -- Page 83). Critics would say, "But that is not the national board as described in Obamacare or H.R. 3200." Not yet, anyway. Does anyone doubt that the duties and power of the national "Health Benefits Advisory Committee" will morph and grow over time? And what power will it wield when it is like the Federal Reserve?'
'Fifth, Emanuel believes in the "phasing out of Medicare (and) Medicaid (pages 88-89 and 94-95)." Could their eventual termination be the reason Obama's administration won't merely reform those programs to accommodate its universal health care desires?'
'Sixth, Emanuel believes in ending employer-based health care (pages 109-112).'
Seventh, Emanuel believes a universal health care program could be paid for by phasing out Medicare and Medicaid, adopting a value-added tax of at least 10 percent, etc., and then allowing Americans themselves to "pay extra with after-tax dollars" (Page 100) for additional medical benefits (beyond the government program).
Chuck Norris states that wherever the money comes from, we will eventually PAY.
'Eighth, enough has been written lately about Emanuel's end-of-life counsel and consultation, including withholding his advice from The Hastings Center Report (in 1996) that medical care should be withheld from those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens. ... An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia." '
So, with the knowledge of this information about Ezekiel Emanuel, and with him being the Special Adviser for Health Policy to the White House,
I do believe that the End Of Life Counseling would essentially be "Death Panels."Source URL: http://outlawrepublican.blogspot.com/search/label/death%20panels
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First- There is a mandate in this bill that requires every five years that you absolutely MUST participate in Advanced Care Planning. What??? Govt should have no role in our lives whatsoever as to whether or not we have end of life counseling every five years or at all for that matter. This is yet another example of government trying to claim more control and power over our lives. And the result of this will be taking away even more of our freedom.
WHETHER A PERSON CHOOSES END OF LIFE COUNSELING OR NOT, IS NOT ANY OF OUR GOVERNMENT'S DAMN BUSINESS!!
There are some items in this bill that would be good suggestions for citizens to take part in but should by no means be in this bill as a requirement. For the average citizen to have knowledge about such things as health care proxies, advanced directives, living wills and durable powers of attorney, and for them to be explained to you by a practitioner is a great idea, but this HAS NO PLACE BEING IN A HEALTH CARE BILL!
Ezekiel Emanuel M.D., P.H.D., the brother of Rahm Emanuel, is a leading opponent of euthanasia laws, sometimes called state-assisted suicide, and a proponent of a Guaranteed Healthcare Access Plan. Emanuel is acting as Special Adviser for Health Policy to Peter Orszag, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget. I believe he is the driving force behind Obamacare and the main architect of the bill as well.
One provision of the bill states that the practitioner gives a person a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal
service organizations.
In section 427 the bill talks about medical orders with regards to life sustaining treatment and how they are standardized all across the State. According to the bill certaiin agencies are involved in your decision making as well. Citizens are guided in their end of life decision making by a Coalition of Stake Holders which includes representatives from:
Coalition of Stake Holders = DEATH PANEL
The fact that this is state run and that the government is involved in a person/patient's decision making is extremely scary to me. Who knows whether the government, in order to save money will be promoting euthanasia. One of the top advisers to the President backs the use of euthanasia so I don't believe it a far stretch by any means to think that these panels would promote euthanasia in order to save the government money, especially if the person is under the government- run health care.
On Chuck Norris's article called Dirty Secret No. 2 in Obamacare he reveals more details regarding Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel. And his bible for health care reform
is his book Healthcare, Guaranteed.
Chuck Norris says, "I find it far more than a coincidence how much Emanuel's book parallels Obamacare's philosophy, strategy and proposed legislation."
'First, Emanuel rejects any attempts at incremental change or reform to our health care system (Page 185).
Second, in the chapter "Opening the Door to Comprehensive Change," starting on Page 171 (which reads more like a political and mass-manipulating strategy than a health care manual), Emanuel drives home "a key political lesson: the need to rush the legislation through." (Seen this methodology being used lately?!)'
'Third, as Obama crusades around the country pitching Obamacare, he continues to avoid giving virtually any specific details of the program. That, too, is a strategy of Emanuel's: "Americans need to avoid the policy weeds. Focusing on details will only distract and create tangles and traps (Page 183).'
'Fourth, Emanuel describes a comprehensive government health care program that is run completely by a national health board and 12 regional health boards ("modeled on the Federal Reserve System" -- Page 83). Critics would say, "But that is not the national board as described in Obamacare or H.R. 3200." Not yet, anyway. Does anyone doubt that the duties and power of the national "Health Benefits Advisory Committee" will morph and grow over time? And what power will it wield when it is like the Federal Reserve?'
'Fifth, Emanuel believes in the "phasing out of Medicare (and) Medicaid (pages 88-89 and 94-95)." Could their eventual termination be the reason Obama's administration won't merely reform those programs to accommodate its universal health care desires?'
'Sixth, Emanuel believes in ending employer-based health care (pages 109-112).'
Seventh, Emanuel believes a universal health care program could be paid for by phasing out Medicare and Medicaid, adopting a value-added tax of at least 10 percent, etc., and then allowing Americans themselves to "pay extra with after-tax dollars" (Page 100) for additional medical benefits (beyond the government program).
Chuck Norris states that wherever the money comes from, we will eventually PAY.
'Eighth, enough has been written lately about Emanuel's end-of-life counsel and consultation, including withholding his advice from The Hastings Center Report (in 1996) that medical care should be withheld from those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens. ... An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia." '
So, with the knowledge of this information about Ezekiel Emanuel, and with him being the Special Adviser for Health Policy to the White House,
I do believe that the End Of Life Counseling would essentially be "Death Panels."Source URL: http://outlawrepublican.blogspot.com/search/label/death%20panels
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